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Neal Milner

Neal Milner is a former political science professor at the University of Hawaiʻi where he taught for 40 years. He is a political analyst for KITV and is a regular contributor to Hawaii Public Radio's "The Conversation." His most recent book is The Gift of Underpants. Opinions are the author's own and do not necessarily reflect Civil Beat's views.

If we could get this project right, it could be a model for Hawaiʻi actually doing big things successfully again.

“Aspirational.”

That’s the word Brennon Morioka, head of Hawaiʻi’s Stadium Authority, used last week to describe developer Stanford Carr’s stadium plan.

Good word choice. Building a stadium is not about girders and turf. It’s about fantasies and aspirations — really powerful fantasies, because sports is such a fantasy incubator.

It’s not just about sports, though. The aspirations are about innovation, nostalgia and distrust. Sound familiar? It should because those three kinds of aspirations affect every major political decision in Hawaiʻi.

Stadium construction is Hawaiʻi in a nutshell, and could become a model of the way to get things done. Or yet another way to fail.

There are three sets of aspirations in the stadium-building mix: Stanford Carr Stadium, McCully Chop Suey Stadium and Jerry Orbach Stadium.

Stanford Carr Stadium

When Morioka described the stadium plan as “aspirational,” he was acting as good cop to bad cop Carr, who was presenting in yet another dream-deadening hearing about Hawaiʻi’s should-have-been-built-by-now stadium.

Carr announced that the new cost would be a tad higher than the state had put aside, like over $300 million higher, almost double the amount of money the state had set aside. He dismissed the former estimate as a “stale number from years ago.”

The developers would bear most of the costs of expanding the stadium district. (Aloha Hālawa District Partners)

Carr’s plan comes right out of the modern stadium builders’ playbook where the stadium is just the start of something big.

In Carr’s as well as the state’s proposed “entertainment district,” the stadium is just a part of a complicated mosaic.

The stadium by itself is, in Carr’s hardboiled words, just a “black hole.” While the entertainment district is the Holy Grail.

The McCully Chop Suey Stadium

This week, the House passed a bill that would stop Carr Stadium and instead enlarge the football stadium on the University of Hawaiʻi campus. That’s a full-force McCully Chop Suey aspiration.

MCS was an old-school Chinese restaurant for years located on the corner of McCully and King.  

It was right out of central casting as a site of local Chinese restaurants at the time. Chop suey on the menu, surly waitresses, self-serve fountain drinks from a coin-operated dining room Coke machine. Bathroom out back if you dared to use it.  

If that’s not old-school local enough, it was just two blocks from the old Honolulu Stadium, the icon  of sports facilities in Hawaii. “The Termite Palace,” but a place with great memories and stories that still circulate.

UH played its football games there, as did minor league baseball. Many spectators lived in the neighborhood and walked or took a short bus ride to the games.

UH is only a few blocks from both the restaurant and  that old stadium site.

McCully advocates just want a stadium. All the rest is extraneous. The stadium should be in a place that triggers important memories and honors the past.

Simplicity, intimacy and memory.

Jerry Orbach Stadium

If you think that the state doesn’t have the capacity to build anything, then the Jerry Orbach Stadium is for you.

This aspiration memorializes actor Jerry Orbach, not because he played Lennie Briscoe, best sidekick detective ever on “Law and Order,” but because he won a Tony Award for his role in the Broadway musical “Promises, Promises.”

“Why should we believe your grandiose stadium plan, considering the miserable track record Hawaii has for building any big public projects. Promises promises.” 

The Jerry Orbach aspiration is kind of a counter-aspiration. It’s not as much about the construction process as it is about the accountability process.

Advocates of the Jerry Orbach view see Stanford Carr’s recent presentation as Rail Redux.

Jerry Orbach Stadium wouldn’t be loaded with bells and whistles. It would be loaded with guarantees, accountability measures and oversight mechanisms.

Finding The Right Combination

Taken individually, each aspiration has crippling flaws, but taken together in the right combination, they could really make the stadium project work.

If that happened, the aspiration combination could be a model for the way things should work around here.

Stanford Carr Stadium’s success depends on making multiple timelines for multiple purposes. It’s about creating and coordinating a complicated plan all in a space that’s not even a big hole yet because the shell of Aloha Stadium still hasn’t been knocked down.

Think that’ll happen here? Are you kidding? Despite all of the governor’s enthusiastic happy talk about making a 2028 deadline and funding the stadium with no additional coasts, Carr’s bombshell instead indicates monkey business as usual.

Brennon Morioka, left, of the Stadium Authority, and developer Stanford Carr answer questions at a recent Senate briefing. (Screenshot/2025)

Meanwhile, McCully Chop Suey wants a stadium that is “just like the old days.” Not a black hole but a black diamond — a crown jewel, not an ancillary or an afterthought. 

Big changes make this impractical, like changes in college football whose big-time revenue streams and conference consolidations have left UH football in the dust and much more vulnerable than in the Aloha Stadium days.

The fan base has changed. Attendance dropped big time even before Aloha Stadium went kaput. Loyal  older fans have died off. Even with the football stadium now on campus, students don’t go to the games.  They never have.

Thanks to new technologies, there are plenty more ways to “experience” the game than there used to be. And people are now more likely to keep to themselves.

The result is likely to be far fewer people walking to the stadium, far fewer spectators watching the game there, and far fewer dedicated sports fanatics who depend on a stadium seat.

Does that mean that Jerry Orbach Stadium wins by default? Definitely not. The problem with skepticism is that it becomes a habit.

When “There’s no way that the state can …”  becomes a mantra, it’s tempting to move from imagining the worse to hoping for the worse because it vindicates your view. 

Or you simply quit having a view at all and become a passive supplicant of mediocrity and incompetence.

Try dealing with, say, Oʻahu’s landfill that way.

It’s bad enough that rail has been such a construction disaster. It’s even worse because rail misadventures color so much of the way people think about change.

 Failure stories have become the go-to joke book that drives our political culture.

Individually, in their pure form, each set of aspirations has serious drawbacks. What’s needed is a hybrid. Taken together with the right balance, the hybrid can move us forward.

The aspirations around the stadium are the same ones that drive Hawaii — that complicated combination of the need for innovations and risk (Carr), maintaining old values (McCully Chop Suey), along with a watchful skepticism about getting things done efficiently and fairly (Jerry Orbach).

Building a stadium is important because the process could be a model. It’s a test of whether Hawaii can get big jobs done.

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About the Author

Neal Milner

Neal Milner is a former political science professor at the University of Hawaiʻi where he taught for 40 years. He is a political analyst for KITV and is a regular contributor to Hawaii Public Radio's "The Conversation." His most recent book is The Gift of Underpants. Opinions are the author's own and do not necessarily reflect Civil Beat's views.


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11 years and counting, the tetanus palace is still standing, and the price has quadrupled or more with only one "bidder." Sounds a lot like the snail rail fail. What could possibly go wrong?"The University of Hawaii is pitching a $165-million Aloha Stadium replacement that will be built as much for soccer as for college football." soccer stadium digest 7/10/2014"The new stadium, which would be built adjacent to the current facility, would cost $324.5 million in 2017 dollars" football stadium digest 4/6/2017"Hawaii governor David Ige committed $400 million to the development of a new stadium to replace Aloha Stadium.The current stadium is expected to be demolished in late 2023 or early 2024, with the new venue in place by the end of 2025." nbc sports 7/8/2022"‘We have $400 million. Honestly, we’d do better to have somewhere between $600 and $800 million at least to build a beautiful stadium that has a roof that can bring extra concerts,’ Gov. Green said." khon2 1/28/2025"The Cost Of A New Aloha Stadium Is Now Up To $650 Million" civil beat 1/28/2025

FesterBestertester · 1 year ago

Going to UH Football games at Aloha Stadium was seldom about the game itself, but about students, alumni, and families tailgating in the parking lot. This was a generational shift from those that enjoyed the "Termite Palace" and it's neighborhood attractions, and it will be another generational shift to have the stadium back in Aiea where the developer will no-doubt expect football fans to dine in nearby restaurants vs. tailgaing.

Rando · 1 year ago

How many venues do we need? We've got:Blaisdell Arena+exhibition & concert halls.Stan Sheriff+TC Ching+Murakami & Wahine Stadiums+vacant adjacent landHawaii Convention CenterAla Wai Golf Course & Clubhouse and Ball RoomWaikiki ShellWhat are the utilization rates of these places?OHA Makai site=35 acresKaimuki high school=35 acresOld Stadium Park=7.5 acresBlaisdell site=7.5 acresAloha stadium site=98 acresUH athletic area= maybe 75 acresAla Wai golf course=135 acresIs the Trump administration going to be selling off any federal/military lands?Can we get some grand master urban planning that encompasses all these sites? Swapping parcels, rationalizing usage in such a way that maximizes utilization while minimizing expenditures?Time to think bigly and outside of the box!

Thrasybulus_of_Athens · 1 year ago

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